Kellatha 629 Posted June 4, 2018 Hey guys I saw a similar guide on RuneX that i'd like to import over here and make SPK's version of the BIS gear for each attack style including both PvP and PvM gear so that players can know what is the best gear in game for their respective styles. PvP: Melee: Helmet: Viper Helm(Has more accuracy than Magma) Cape: Infernal Cape(Same stats as infernal max) Necklace: Amulet of Torture(or) Main Hand: Frost Tentacle(For DPS), 3rd Age Longsword(For max hit) Off Hand: Avernic Defender Top: Torva Platebody Bottom: Torva Platelegs Gloves: Enchanted Gloves Boots: Primal Boots(Slightly higher defensive boosts compared to primordials) Ring: Ring of Vigour(i) Range: Helmet: Viper Helmet Cape: Ava's Max Cape(t), Wildy cape has +1 higher range strength but has less accuracy Necklace: Necklace of Anguish(or) Main Hand: Heavy Ballista, Zaryte Bow Top: Kharazi Leatherbody Bottom: Kharazi Chaps Gloves: Enchanted Gloves Boots: Kharazi Boots Ring: Blood Archers Ring(i) Mage: Helmet: Ancestral Hat Cape: Guthix max cape (Any imbued god cape will do the same) Necklace: Occult Necklace(or) Main Hand: Kodai Wand Off Hand: Mystic Tome Top: Ancestral Top, Blood Shaman Top Bottom: Ancestral Bottom, Blood Shaman robes Gloves: Tormented Bracelet Boots: Bloodmancer Boots Ring: Seers Ring(i) PvM: Melee: Helmet: Lava Slayer Helmet Cape: Infernal Cape Necklace: Bloodmancer Pendant Main Hand: Scythe of Vitur, Vesta Long Sword Off Hand: Avernic Defender Top: Torva Platebody Bottom: Torva Platelegs Gloves: Enchanted Gloves Boots: Primal Boots Ring: Grand Ring(i) Pet: Tectonic Fairy Range: Helmet: Fused Slayer Helmet Cape: Infernal Cape Necklace: Blood Pendant Main Hand: Twisted bow, Blowpipe Top: Kharazi Leatherbody Bottom: Kharazi Chaps Gloves: Enchanted Gloves Boots: Kharazi Boots Ring: Grand Ring(i) Pet: Tectonic Fairy Mage: Helmet: Fused Slayer Helmet Cape: Infernal Cape Necklace: Blood Pendant Main Hand: Kodai Wand Off Hand: Tome of Fire Top: Blood Shaman Top Bottom: Blood Shaman Robes Gloves: Enchanted Gloves Boots: Kharazi Boots Ring: Grand Ring Pet: Tectonic Fairy 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ichi 10 Posted June 5, 2018 Great work on this. Too bad I'm too poor for most of it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
despair 40 Posted June 5, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, Kellatha said: Helmet: Magma Helmet/Blood Crown(same stats as magma helm) I think viper is better for melee, viper only has -1 str which makes no difference in max hits (didnt test this so could be wrong) but it has waaay better offensive stats. Great guide anyways gj. Edited June 5, 2018 by despair Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kellatha 629 Posted June 5, 2018 31 minutes ago, despair said: I think viper is better for melee, viper only has -1 str which makes no difference in max hits (didnt test this so could be wrong) but it has waaay better offensive stats. Great guide anyways gj. Tested it out with AGS(or) and it did make a difference. Max hit went from 61-62 (viper to magma)with auto, spec stayed at 84 though. http://prntscr.com/jqyji8 Also i'd like to highlight that different attacks do change the damage. http://prntscr.com/jqyjw0 Slash and Smash both do 62 Auto in max melee, http://prntscr.com/jqykb0 Meanwhile Chop and Block do 60 damage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
despair 40 Posted June 5, 2018 10 minutes ago, Kellatha said: Tested it out with AGS(or) and it did make a difference. Max hit went from 61-62 (viper to magma)with auto, spec stayed at 84 though. http://prntscr.com/jqyji8 Also i'd like to highlight that different attacks do change the damage. http://prntscr.com/jqyjw0 Slash and Smash both do 62 Auto in max melee, http://prntscr.com/jqykb0 Meanwhile Chop and Block do 60 damage. Isnt it better to use viper then? Aint like 1 more max hit seals the deal over more accuracy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kellatha 629 Posted June 5, 2018 4 minutes ago, despair said: Isnt it better to use viper then? Aint like 1 more max hit seals the deal over more accuracy Maybe not on one hit weapons but weapons that hit based on variables like dragon claws, or rasi spec that scales off of max strength bonus and hit's amazingly high due to melee being weak to mage. That +1 could mean an extra 4 damage on dragon claws, double that for another 4(for the second spec). If you have vigour(i) you can spec a third team with another possible 4 damage, giving a 12 damage extra in the fight you would of not had without that extra +1 str. Minuscule damage boosts, but every little bit counts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_Jorik_ 35 Posted June 6, 2018 (edited) LOOOOOOOOOOOOL TWISTED BOW BEST IN SLOT FOR PVP LMFAOOO Edited June 6, 2018 by _Jorik_ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lzerraptorz 47 Posted June 6, 2018 Not gonna lie i think you forgot about many items, also think you've completely ignored context when it comes to the PVP items, sure tbow looks the best stat wise, but no spec bar slow attacks makes it honestly useless compared to many other weapons, ballista is straight up garbage for a main hand similar to the ways mage is, too slow too inaccurate. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Goobymunch 105 Posted June 6, 2018 Please let somebody else do the pvp best in slot this is just... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aquaman 73 Posted June 6, 2018 If you guys see things that should be changed, specifically pvp related, let her know. Commenting that she has missed something isn't helping players that would be interested in reading this thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Y I P K U 57 Posted June 7, 2018 (edited) BIS has an objective meaning, it's only numbers, what the math itself actually proves. Usefulness is subjective and only has situation dependent relevancy. It's 100% about theory not practicality. I like hyperbole's, so this is my example: Would Torva+divine and any 1h be "BIS" for range because the defense\soak from divine and Torva would outweigh any range bonus received from Kharazi? No. It's about what can be proved. A real example: There's a trick to buffer the spec bar to do a NS insta, a specbar isn't needed for a 1tick. Needing one is subjective and relevant, even my answer is so. You can see what I'm getting at. When considering all "useful" factors (DPS, shields, leech mechanics, veng countering, swifts, and more) and after Zbow's nerf, it's max DPS being limited to less than 21.649 DPS (weird working formula, I would have to give 2 different DPS' at different intervals, it wouldn't make very much sense) from 31.667~ DPS, the "best" PvP range weapon would be a spawnable weapon. Rune knifes. Tbow after it's formula fix (even though a Pvm wep) and balli are the two least "limited" weapons in-game. Spoiler http://services.runescape.com/m=forum/forums.ws?380,381,339,65846170 While the Twisted Bow has strong base stats, it can become stronger or weaker against opponents depending on their magic level or magic attack bonus. It has 124.75% damage scaling and 94.8% accuracy scaling against 99 magic. On a side note the only improvement I see would've been a 3rd option for range, which would've been a 3rd age bow. Max bonuses for big hits vs DPS is what most this guide uses and range used big hit vs bigger hit (still most DPS). Even though balli has the most theoretical DPS/ele c'bow has the highest average DPS, 3rd age bow probably has the most "constant" DPS Edited June 7, 2018 by Y I P K U Typo 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Legitemately 5 Posted June 10, 2018 On 6-6-2018 at 7:00 PM, Aquaman said: If you guys see things that should be changed, specifically pvp related, let her know. Commenting that she has missed something isn't helping players that would be interested in reading this thread. Him* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WASHMYCAT69 13 Posted June 10, 2018 72% drop rate bonus and i see ppl saying pvming is hard lmfa0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kellatha 629 Posted June 10, 2018 5 hours ago, Legitemately said: Him* Tyrone* 5 hours ago, WASHMYCAT69 said: 72% drop rate bonus and i see ppl saying pvming is hard lmfa0 Tbh sometimes it feels like it doesn't even help. I had 52-57% and didn't get a drop on tekton until my 501st kill, mind you it was a shitty kodai. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Legitemately 5 Posted June 11, 2018 17 hours ago, Kellatha said: Tyrone* Tbh sometimes it feels like it doesn't even help. I had 52-57% and didn't get a drop on tekton until my 501st kill, mind you it was a shitty kodai. All rng m9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kellatha 629 Posted January 5, 2019 Taking off as this is no longer needed. RIP! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
