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  2. Posted · Edited by Frzn

    The issue is that people rag people for fun? Not actually because they are getting rushed. Plenty of assholes abuse edge ragging. it ruins the game for everyone. anyone who agrees ragging should be allowed is just a sad little moron who get off on the fact they are annoying someone and obviously have to much time to waste. 

     

    If any of you who rag ever look back on yourself in 20 years. i bet every one of you will say 'God I was a childish asshole..'

     

    For all the people who are getting ragged after pking someone or because the losing player is salty. what do you do with them?

    Enter a retarded ragg competition? Hmm? Sounds pathetic. NOT EVERYONE GETS RAGGED FOR A REASON. ITS PURE OPINIONATED.

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  3. Posted

    On 5/16/2019 at 6:07 PM, KANKERPLANKER said:

    Stop being a bitch & rag them back, if you won't rag them back don't complain? go pvm? it's edge expect raggers

     

    And talking about wasting time on your 'breaks'

    http://prntscr.com/npgmny

     

    What does your screenshot even mean? 😆

    You do realize there isn't a log out timer ? Right? You Spanner.

  5. Posted

    21 minutes ago, congomen69 said:

    If you're not rushing there's no need to mention rushers, there's no point in really rushing them back as they just teleport out as soon as they get their specs out, which in the end becomes a form of ragging by itself, as you are no longer pking anymore you're just focusing your attention on rushing that rusher. Now I know in your case you haven't rushed anyone, but I'm saying that if someone is to rag you for a pathetic reason, you just have to rag them back, they won't last as their initial reason to ragging you is a pathetic one anyway. However, if you show that you're weak and that you can't deal with them they will continue to harass you. Most people that get ragged usually deserve to get ragged, nobody really gets ragged for no reason unless the raggers themselves are just idiots that are seeking attention which are usually quite easy to clear anyway. Enforcing ragging rules at edge will just waste staff's time and as there is a scarcity of staff members on this server, their time is more valuable elsewhere. A blacklist would be useful, however; people can just make alts to avoid your blacklist; so if these blacklists were IP/UID Based, it would make more sense. Nevertheless, I do not think any one should be punished for ragging, as usually the ragged player is just as guilty as the person ragging them. It's easy to act like a victim when you're being ragged, but in most cases (not saying it's same in your case), the person being ragged is far from innocent.

    If you check the original post, you will see that its not just a 'Ragger' its a group of them who are advising each other on whom to rag.. when they don't even have an issue with you.. o.O 

    That's fair enough. Maybe some type blacklist idea would be better? I am not disagreeing. Maybe a new poll could be created on that being a factor? What ever the change is. something needs to be done..

  6. Posted

    7 minutes ago, congomen69 said:

    if you rush people, you deserve to get ragged. My point is most people on here don't last, if you sacrifice some time and rag them back they wouldn't bother you anymore and you can enjoy the game as much as you want. But I suppose it's already too late for that now as you've already proven yourself to be an easy target.

    Rush them back? you are in the wild. Its called the 'wild' for a reason. not to sit there with protection prayers, a tank setup and click people. I am not an easy target as i just go on my alt... but id prefer to stay playing on my main. you are missing the picture and using statements such as 'rushers deserve to be ragged' 

    I didnt actually rush anyone. Thats the point. i asked someone to skull up... does anyone actually read?! o.O  Ive checked over other servers and they have anti rag rules and rushing rules. such as rushing is allowed as long as they are not using protection prayers. Also ragging is bannable. That server seems to have less drama and more pking.. BUT... i prefer SpawnPK as a server. that's why id rather discuss and change the way ragging is allowed in game. 

  7. Posted · Edited by Frzn

    45 minutes ago, congomen69 said:

    How about instead of spending all this time complaining on forums, you actually rag them back and make them sick and tired of you? Nobody on SpawnPK lasts, but if you show weakness you become an easy target and everyone will pick on you.

    I dont fancy wasting my dinner breaks and evenings pressing on a player with knifes thanks.. I prefer to play the game and actually enjoy it. How about them not being a child and arguing over pathetic teenagers who get a kick out of being an irritating waste of space?

    I was told to post it on the forums by Staff. So i did. If you rag people on a private server. you're just a loser... plain and simple.

     

    if you get rushed.. rush back.. 

  8. Posted

    18 hours ago, KANKERPLANKER said:

    This is fucking cringe. Stop yourself. If you're getting ragged by 'Under DD' or 'Purelaz61' & I bless you the baldy burnt krayfish IRL, you should honestly rethink your shit l0000000l what's the deal banana peel..

     

    Stop complaining

    You are cringe. You haven't even read the entire post.. Otherwise you would have actually seen why i was ragged. because you seem to be to lazy to read and just come on here to bitch, ill repeat it just for you. :) 

    Under DD ragged me because i asked Purelaz61 to actually grab some risk instead of sitting in primal tank and not skulling. That's all i did. He did his usual childish shit and said 'you started on Purelaz61 you are perm ragged' I was like really?? At that point he got flamed. Screenshots prove he is ragging outside of edgeville and proof of him telling his cronies to rag me constantly.

     

    So how about before assuming. grab the full picture.

     

    Thanks.

     

     

  9. Posted · Edited by Frzn

    19 hours ago, Phenomenon said:

    I'll re-iterate myself, whether you choose to listen or not is ultimately up to you - But I think it would be your wisest move to do so considering I take responsibility for all rag-related incidents and am the person you want to speak to if you wish to get something done about it...

    • The unprofessional responses come off more as "ranting" more than an issue that holds validity, this more than likely will result in nothing being done about the matter because people will just think you are complaining for no reason.
    • If you want people to take you seriously, you should try a more calmer approach - Especially since you're posting for the entire public to see.
    • Even with all of this being said, I understand your frustration and would like to come up with a solution if you're willing to cooperate.

    I understand where you are coming from. But reading something in your own mind can come across in a different way when reading it from someone elses perspective. I am sure you understand this. (this happens to me with women all the time via sms messages) 

    So apologies if you think I am 'ranting' but i would like to think of it as being passionate about a game i enjoy playing and have spent alot of time on. I enjoy the server and that is why i donate to keep it going.. I just get frustrated when i ask a multitude of questions and they are either deflected or ignored..

    I am willing to cooperate and be involved as long as its just not forgotten about.

    :/

     

  10. Posted

    On 5/10/2019 at 10:23 PM, Phenomenon said:

    The unprofessional responses come off as "ranting" more than an issue that holds validity, I understand your frustration and I've been keeping this issue in the back of my mind, however, you should really try to be more calm when making a response for everyone to see - It makes the thread look more like complaining, which usually gets little to no results rather than a discussion, that can have a lot of impact within the server.

    I am trying to show you that there is a problem with toxic people on the server and that they are using this to harass players. and that its not being dealt with.. I am complaining. Thats the point..Because after checking over past threads on different parts of the forum. this is being brought up quite often. it seems like no matter how many people vote on it. not everyone uses forums to post. so the validity of the polls are void anyway.. as you said. you cant rely on polls because people will vote for certain people just because they ask them to.. its a popularity contest..

     

    Since when was professionalism involved in gameplay? im not an admin. Im not a moderator. Im not a Youtuber. Im a frustrated player. Its as simple as that.

  11. Posted

    19 hours ago, pure essence said:

    Ahh alright thanks for the clarification makes A lot more sense now that u explained it and how you guys decide on when and why you decide to make a change or not, hopefully you guys will figure out a solution to hopefully fix the ragging situation atm.

    Thanks again for taking time and responding

    https://imgur.com/a/I76uYon

     

    What is to be done about this Tev? Nothing?

  12. Posted · Edited by Frzn

    18 hours ago, Phenomenon said:

    Correct, I'm a bit tied up at the moment but i'll explain the procedure as soon as I am available. We take %'s into account, but also filtering out valid / invalid polling & comments that might be made. We don't want to just go off of "68% - AKA 15-23" without understanding both sides and getting a bigger picture on how drastic the change would be. Staff enforcement also comes into play, how would the lives of the staff members be having to deal with rag-related reports on a much wider scale like Edgeville home (a majority of the population most of the times).

    It's easy for someone to randomly come by and drop a -1 simply because they're friends with someone who told them to, or if they just want to be a dick (this also goes the same for +1), I'd much rather see a result like 60 to 20 where it's OBVIOUS everyone wants the change, even though the % isn't the best, it gives more insight as to what's going on rather than a 8 point margin.

    A good example of what I'm saying is this poll:

    Which is something I'm pushing heavily for this update, 60 want it reverted, 13 say keep it as it is, and 28 are open to some type of change. That's a HUGE difference, and I can clearly see how most people feel. Also, as an Admin I have certain filters that give different indicators than just 15-23 which is another reason why we didn't jump hastily on that poll.

    If the poll doesn't pass or this never does get changed. what would you recommend to do if you are considered 'ragged for life' ?

    If the poll doesnt pass. does this just get pushed under the carpet? Do I just quit? What would you recommend. 

  13. Posted

    On 5/8/2019 at 4:47 PM, Phenomenon said:

    Hi Frzn,

     

    We've actually restricted ragging in a lot of places that we deemed to be problematic if an outbreak of ragging ever happened there:

    9: Ragging

    • We define ragging as repeated or consistent harassment towards another player in a PvP environment.
    • This rule applies to the following areas: Graveyards, EdgePvP(::edgepvp NOT edgeville), Mage Bank, Risk Fight Arena, and Pure PKing (::pure).
    • This might mean using overhead protection prayers and rushing, barraging/ranging their opponent repeatedly  just to stop them from PKing.
    • With regards to rushing, there's a fine line between rushing and harassment (ragging).
    • Banter before and after the fight is fine, but if someone's getting too annoyed/offended then it needs to stop.
    • Please note that staff decisions are final, and staff will say whether the situation is classed as ragging or not.
    • Every situation is different and will be treated very seriously by staff.The criteria of ragging reports will require sufficient evidence from the reporter -  This would probably need to be an eye witness by staff, or a video recording.
    • Standing around or under other peoples fights in these areas count as ragging.

    We have yet to implement this for Edgeville (home) because of the level of controversy it may hold.

    • It was easy to implement it in smaller (and necessary) areas as there would be little to no objection, and it's always been traditional protocol even on other RSPS.
    • I'm not so sure about implementing it at Edgeville, I'm sure a lot of casual players would be happy about it, but i'm not 100% sure how the other side (more experienced) would react as some people believe ragging is a necessary action to those who act so obnoxiously towards other players - And, to an extent I agree.

    May I ask which areas you're experiencing the trouble with ragging? If it's home, a better solution to the problem would be to maybe submit a poll and let people vote.

     

    Hope you found this information useful, I'm interested in how this post will do (i've seen you spark some discussions on other threads, nicely done).

    Well. This is awkward.. Looks like that Poll was ignored.

    https://imgur.com/a/gyBRaZF

     

  14. Posted

    Funnily enough, Ive been going through the farewells. and over 50% of them include 'Ragging' as a main cause :D what a joke... Shows you the extent of the ragging in the server.

    It even mentions other server deal with ragging by making it illegal to rush with protection prayers on. Look guys ! Easy Fix !

  15. Posted · Edited by Frzn

    7 minutes ago, pure essence said:

    i wouldn't quite say that the staff team dosen't really want to do anything about it, because i know they are busy especially with more important things then hunting down raggers and when its not even against the rules atm... but hopefully with this thread it'll bring more exposure to how bad it gets and maybe they will take our solutions and do something about it.

    I cant think of anything more important. the Server is clean. minimal scamming which is dealt with correctly by staff. Half the time they are answering questions in PMS..

  16. Posted · Edited by Frzn

    4 minutes ago, pure essence said:

    couldn't have said it better myself the whole idea of being able to "BLOCK" certain people is a clear solution to this problem and to the people voting "no" are the people who are making this a problem which is sad

    Totally agree mate..

    They just don't want to have to watch evidence videos and actually do something... Everyone who knows voted 'No' are either member of the SpawnPK team or they are just kissing ass.. Truth.. o.O

  17. Posted · Edited by Frzn

    2 hours ago, Max Avon said:

    Sometimes people deserve getting ragged, if ragging was illegal in edge then rushers would be able to do whatever they want, people can flame whoever they want with no repercussions etc. which is why ragging is a thing

    Fair Enough. But i am getting ragged 'For life' apparently. thus that means i have wasted money in game as i cannot play? Is that fair? Also the fact the evidences clearly shows the guy breaking the rules advising that he will rag anywhere in the wilderness. (shown in the screenshots above) Also You can Freeze and brid Rushers easily.. or anti rush them.. You are not taking into consideration that a lot of the raggers are childish teenagers or little kids trying to wind you up. They don't care if you tell them to go away or KYS. they will rag you regardless. It also doesn't help that Divine spirit shields cost nothing in game..

    Asking a guy to grab some risk and then he refuses and i teleport. deserves rag for life? I don't think so.. Its only then i flamed him when i started getting ragged by 3 players constantly.. (I am human)

    No one has answered the question why YouTubers have the ability to stop raggers? 

    Having the ability to BLOCK a player would be brilliant. You cant trade them. Speak with them. And they cant attack you in Edgeville? You wouldn't need to worry about high wilderness as ragging is against the rules in that area.

    If you cant agree with ragging being illegal, then Ragging teams definitely should be.

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  18. Posted

    12 hours ago, Hooke V2 said:

    Jesus christ, if you're getting ragged you've done something to deserve it.

    If its random, they won't last.

    You probably talk shit to them which makes them rag.

    Another child of the Server...

    I told him to get risk. then i got ragged. None of you who have voted against the poll have given any reason to why ragging should be allowed. proves my theory. Moderators just do not want to do any work.. the only people who have voted no are people who would rag or do not wanna do any work.

  19. Posted · Edited by Frzn

    Whats also f***ed up is that YouTubers are able to blacklist people from attacking them.. Staff do not even have this power! How messed up is that?

    The fact YouTubers have this power so that they can post videos without them being ragged all the time so they can generate money for the owners is appalling. That isn't Gameplay or realistic is it... 

    Why can't this function be activated for all players which works in certain areas of the wild like i don't know... EDGEVILLE where ragging is most likely..

    Maybe a fresh pair of eyes and someone else with a different opinion needs to be posting more and more to get the point across.. o.o

  20. Posted

    Whats Funny is that Edgeville is the most populated PK Zone.. So its pointless that its against the rules everywhere else and not Edgeville? Someone please explain this to me.

     

  21. Posted · Edited by Frzn

    https://imgur.com/a/AQJZKdG

     

    Proof Under DD referring to ragging this player in the wilderness not just edgeville..

    Proof of him having a team

    Proof of him waiting for me like the sad act he is. (ive been using an alt so it doesnt effect me) But hes now targeting new players too. he actually enjoys doing it.

     

    Who ever votes NO. Explain why? Is it because moderators would actually have to moderate other than answering questions?

  22. Posted

    18 minutes ago, Phenomenon said:

    Hi Frzn,

     

    We've actually restricted ragging in a lot of places that we deemed to be problematic if an outbreak of ragging ever happened there:

    9: Ragging

    • We define ragging as repeated or consistent harassment towards another player in a PvP environment.
    • This rule applies to the following areas: Graveyards, EdgePvP(::edgepvp NOT edgeville), Mage Bank, Risk Fight Arena, and Pure PKing (::pure).
    • This might mean using overhead protection prayers and rushing, barraging/ranging their opponent repeatedly  just to stop them from PKing.
    • With regards to rushing, there's a fine line between rushing and harassment (ragging).
    • Banter before and after the fight is fine, but if someone's getting too annoyed/offended then it needs to stop.
    • Please note that staff decisions are final, and staff will say whether the situation is classed as ragging or not.
    • Every situation is different and will be treated very seriously by staff.The criteria of ragging reports will require sufficient evidence from the reporter -  This would probably need to be an eye witness by staff, or a video recording.
    • Standing around or under other peoples fights in these areas count as ragging.

    We have yet to implement this for Edgeville (home) because of the level of controversy it may hold.

    • It was easy to implement it in smaller (and necessary) areas as there would be little to no objection, and it's always been traditional protocol even on other RSPS.
    •  I'm not so sure about implementing it at Edgeville, I'm sure a lot of casual players would be happy about it, but i'm not 100% sure how the other side (more experienced) would react as some people believe ragging is a necessary action to those who act so obnoxiously towards other players - And, to an extent I agree.

    May I ask which areas you're experiencing the trouble with ragging? If it's home, a better solution to the problem would be to maybe submit a poll and let people vote.

     

    Hope you found this information useful, I'm interested in how this post will do (i've seen you spark some discussions on other threads, nicely done).

    Hi Tev, 

    Thanks for such a fast response i appreciate it. 

    I have been ragged at least 20 times in the last 2 weeks (including today) at home.. Its getting boring. I didn't donate to a server to have this pathetic childish behavior. I play this game regularly, most of the time its on lunch breaks at work and some nights at home.. 

    I cannot step into the wild without some loser with full void a divine and knifes. Simple things where you are being constantly rushed or if you simply ask someone to risk something because there sitting in full primal and OP gear with no risk and expecting you to skull when technically..id be risking more if i did skull. (standard SpawnPK problems) I also have screenshot evidence of them ganging up on newer players and plotting to constantly rag someone to stop them playing all together. which if it is edgeville home pking or not should not be allowed.

    Ragging isn't a skill its an annoyance. So why would the 'More Experienced' People care about it? that doesn't make sense to me at all. Experienced players can Hybrid, Tribrid. I would love to hear what an 'Experienced Player' thinks about this and there reasons for do it other than being a low life toxic child with borderline mental issues.

    This ragging isn't just an issue for us the players. but the owner too. this will cause him to loose money, loose players, which in effect will cause the players a problem and the server will cease to be anything.

    List of recent raggers..

    Under Dd

    Purelaz61

    I Bless You

     

  24. Posted · Edited by Frzn

    Why is Ragging considered allowed in this Private Server with a limited player base and a limited community? It doesn't make any sense. If evidence can be provided of a constant rag this is a type of cyber bullying and allowing this on here is disgusting. Rules needs to be amended for this. as there are silly teenagers running around ragging anyone who even types to them. How can you call a server 'SpawnPK' if you cant PK? 

    I think if you are caught ragging you should receive a jail time of 48 hours or more depending on the severity and depending on the proof provided.

    I understand ragging is in the main game. But the difference is you have multiple worlds to pick from and its a lot easier to avoid. This server has teams of raggers who don't like getting told there bad because they sit in spawn and constantly rush you and teleport. Lets be honest its childish and pathetic and it needs stomping out.

    I've been playing this server for well over a year and the community is being scummier and scummier each week with childish teenagers who cant take any criticism.

    Frzn

     

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  25. Posted

    And that is the problem. That's why if you have obtained the best in slot in game which isn't dropped on death. there needs to be some kind of retribution for this.

     

    Yes, you have unlocked untradeables fair enough well done. now you have a major benefit and advantage. I think Auto skull on some items and pets should be introduced. it would stop people taking advantage and there being unrealistic setups in PVP.  Id be happy to auto skull if i walk into edge with obsidan cursed. 

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